"It looks to me like the drownings(killings) started in LaCrosse. A string of them. To continue the speculation: Perhaps this is where the technique was perfected. Some Trane tech. was working at the LaCrosse facility for a few years and made a series of kills. Then, as he/she gained seniority and experience, he started traveling to outside locations on service calls. Trane is big and has equipment all over the country and especially strong here in the upper Midwest.SHR, the Forum Admin, added:
I don't know though, because most of the reports indicate a lack of foul play. So how does someone kidnap a grown man, and kill him without any signs of foul play? Unless the police reports are lies, I can't figure that part out."
"R-22 can be used almost like a knockout gas, with some effort, but not a ton, wouldn't be too hard for someone who knows a little about HVAC to use that. Has almost a nitrious oxide effect, people do get high on it. Cargo van....victims half hammered....Jugs of refigerant not out of place for anyone in the AC biz, roll your window down a little, the other window doesn't work, open the valve and sleepy time drunken stupor land for a short while. I doubt there would be a whole lot of traces of it either."FWIW, Trane does have a large facility in LaCrosse, Wisconsin, where at least six of the young men have drowned. If Jessiah Jameson's death is part of the serial killings, the speculation follows suit, as another member of the GLP forum suggests:
"They [Trane] do training in clarksville tennesee where jessiah jameson drowned. This is where the commercial units are made."It is also highly likely (*IF* the deaths are at the hands serial murderers) that the person committing the crimes has a convenient means by which to transport victims. A friendly professional in a uniform, driving a company van, would also give most college students less cause to become suspicious if offered a ride home late at night.Hmmm...
My Initial Theory: We may be looking at a couple (or more) female serial killers. Before you write off that theory, think it over. You're an athletic, college age male, who's been out partying with friends. You leave to walk home or clear your head before heading back to the dorms. A car drives up with a couple nice looking young ladies inside. They offer you a ride... maybe a promise of "some fun" ... and a little something else to drink. How many horny college dudes would say no? One could answer -- the ones who lived. Others are the reason for this thread -- and hundreds more like it. The fem fatales leave a smiley face at the scene where they drop the unconscious or lifeless bodies of their victims into the cold water of the river (or local lake). Another intriguing idea...
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I don't know, though I agree it's a strong possibilty that it could be the work of a female serial killer (or killers). However, as a woman and as a former college student, we were taught and cautioned not to take rides from strangers and men. Would a male college student, obviously in good health, have the same considerations? It might be able to lure drunk or drugged men into a car of van, since they would not have the same safety concerns a female would have.
It is hard to stop the Trane Theory. Glen Leadly took a job in Chicago that sells parts for Trane air conditioners. Wade Steffy was found electrouted in a utility room of a college dorm in Indiana. Scot Javins worked at a hardware store in Indiana. All signs point to Chicago and the area just to the south of it.
In November 2002, Glenn Leadley moved to Chicago to take a new job with Anixter, Inc. In February 2003, he was attending a party at a friend’s apartment on Chicago’s Gold Coast. According to his father, Gary, Glenn allegedly told friends he wasn't feeling well and left to catch a cab around 10:30 pm.
A cab was called for Jameson in Clarksville Tennesee also.In both cases the driver was never located.Was there a real cab?
From footprints On The Rivers edge
In November 2002, Glenn Leadley moved to Chicago to take a new job with Anixter, Inc. In February 2003, he was attending a party at a friend’s apartment on Chicago’s Gold Coast. According to his father, Gary, Glenn allegedly told friends he wasn't feeling well and left to catch a cab around 10:30 pm.
http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2006/11/glen-leadley-23-chicago-il.html
From another site.
All 200 Trane Parts Centers will have access to Anixter wire and cable products, making it more accessible to service contractors as they maintain building automation, controls and mechanical systems. Plus, the Anixter wire meets all of Trane’s specifications on communication wire needed to service and maintain its Tracer Summit systems.
http://contractingbusiness.com/business_bits/cb_imp_75997/
A dead student in Chicago dies from asphyxia.In the initial report they say it is from carbon dioxide.Later they decide it was nitrous oxide.Ammonia is used in the manufacturing process of nitrous oxide and air conditioning refrigerant can also contain ammonia.
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/nov/24/local/chi-student-death-24nov24
The Trane Theory on You tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXxg5GjWbGw
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